{"id":1714,"date":"2021-11-25T18:21:10","date_gmt":"2021-11-25T17:21:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/?p=1714"},"modified":"2021-11-25T18:22:28","modified_gmt":"2021-11-25T17:22:28","slug":"kurbli-filmklub-ingmar-bergman-tukor-altal-homalyosan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/rs\/2021\/11\/25\/kurbli-filmklub-ingmar-bergman-tukor-altal-homalyosan\/","title":{"rendered":"Kurbli Filmklub: Ingmar Bergman-T\u00fck\u00f6r \u00e1ltal hom\u00e1lyosan"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Szabadka\/2021.11.24.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ingmar Bergman: T\u00fck\u00f6r \u00e1ltal hom\u00e1lyosan (S\u00e5som i en spegel) sv\u00e9d filmdr\u00e1ma, 1961., 87 perc<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\">\u201eBergmant t\u00fck\u00f6r \u00e1ltal hom\u00e1lyosan l\u00e1tjuk; azt hissz\u00fck, korszakos filoz\u00f3fusa a filmm\u0171v\u00e9szetnek, pedig a te\u00f3ria sohasem \u00e9rdekelte, a szeretet hi\u00e1ny\u00e1r\u00f3l viszont mindent tudott.\u201d <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\">Kov\u00e1cs Andr\u00e1s B\u00e1lint<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">A francia \u00faj-hull\u00e1m Ingmar Bergmant, mint Robert Bressont saj\u00e1t mester\u00e9nek tekintette, viszont Bergman els\u0151 igazi \u00faj-hull\u00e1mos filmje csak 1961-ben k\u00e9sz\u00fclt el. Ez a T\u00fck\u00f6r \u00e1ltal hom\u00e1lyosan, mely az eur\u00f3pai modern korszakban sz\u00fcletett z\u00e1rt szitu\u00e1ci\u00f3s dr\u00e1m\u00e1k kimagasl\u00f3 p\u00e9ld\u00e1ja. Az \u00e1tmeneti st\u00edlusjegyeket mutat\u00f3 filmben a transzcendens term\u00e9szet \u00e9s a \u2013 kor\u00e1bbi alkot\u00e1sokban hangs\u00falyosabb \u2013 erk\u00f6lcsi er\u0151vel b\u00edr\u00f3 szerepl\u0151k k\u00f6z\u00f6tti interakci\u00f3 fokozatosan megsz\u0171nik.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery aligncenter columns-2 is-cropped wp-block-gallery-2 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\"><ul class=\"blocks-gallery-grid\"><li class=\"blocks-gallery-item\"><figure><img data-opt-id=720681803  fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"259\" height=\"194\" src=\"https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:auto\/h:auto\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/images-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" data-id=\"1715\" class=\"wp-image-1715\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:259\/h:194\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/images-1.jpg 259w, https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:259\/h:194\/q:mauto\/f:best\/dpr:2\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/images-1.jpg 2x\" sizes=\"(max-width: 259px) 100vw, 259px\" \/><\/figure><\/li><li class=\"blocks-gallery-item\"><figure><img data-opt-id=590448712  fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"259\" height=\"194\" src=\"https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:auto\/h:auto\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/images-5.jpg\" alt=\"\" data-id=\"1720\" data-full-url=\"https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:auto\/h:auto\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/images-5.jpg\" data-link=\"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/?attachment_id=1720\" class=\"wp-image-1720\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:259\/h:194\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/images-5.jpg 259w, https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:259\/h:194\/q:mauto\/f:best\/dpr:2\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/images-5.jpg 2x\" sizes=\"(max-width: 259px) 100vw, 259px\" \/><\/figure><\/li><\/ul><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">A t\u00e1j (Ett\u0151l a filmt\u0151l kezdve Bergman 1973-ig kb. az \u00f6sszes term\u00e9szetben j\u00e1tsz\u00f3d\u00f3 filmjelenet\u00e9t Faro \u201ekihalt\u201d sziget\u00e9n forgatja.) elvesz\u00edti egzotikus, idillikus, tel\u00edtett \u00e9s teremt\u0151 jelent\u00e9s\u00e9t. A ki\u00fcres\u00edtett, elidegen\u00edtett, k\u00f6z\u00f6ny\u00f6s term\u00e9szet l\u00e1tv\u00e1ny\u00e1ban primer mot\u00edvumok funkcion\u00e1lnak, olykor kifejezetten expressz\u00edv, szimbolikus \u00e9s dr\u00e1mai hat\u00e1sok ment\u00e9n, \u201ea k\u00f6rnyezet vizu\u00e1lisan tartalmazza vagy \u00e1br\u00e1zolja a szerepl\u0151k k\u00f6z\u00f6tt kiboml\u00f3 dr\u00e1m\u00e1t\u201d \u2013, \u00e9s az elhagyatott \u00e9s szeretetlen szerepl\u0151k neurotikus, szenved\u0151 lelki\u00e1llapot\u00e1t. Ahogy er\u0151s\u00f6dik a modern \u201eexpressz\u00edv minimalizmus\u201d hat\u00e1sa, Bergmann\u00e1l a fesz\u00fclt \u00e9s dr\u00e1mai premier pl\u00e1nok haszn\u00e1lata egyre tudatosabb lesz, \u201eami a t\u00f6bbi mot\u00edvum (t\u00e1j, emberek) sz\u00e9ls\u0151s\u00e9ges redukci\u00f3j\u00e1b\u00f3l ad\u00f3d\u00f3 kifejez\u00e9stelens\u00e9g kompenz\u00e1ci\u00f3j\u00e1nak t\u0171nik.\u201d \u00c9s ett\u0151l a filmt\u0151l kezdve v\u00e1lik egyre kev\u00e9sb\u00e9 felismerhet\u0151v\u00e9 Bergmann\u00e1l a k\u00fcls\u0151 k\u00f6rnyezeti \u00e9s a bels\u0151 lelki\/tudati t\u00e1j k\u00fcl\u00f6nbs\u00e9ge.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-opt-id=1315340179  decoding=\"async\" width=\"259\" height=\"194\" src=\"https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:auto\/h:auto\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/images-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1716\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:259\/h:194\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/images-2.jpg 259w, https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:259\/h:194\/q:mauto\/f:best\/dpr:2\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/images-2.jpg 2x\" sizes=\"(max-width: 259px) 100vw, 259px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">KAB \u00fajabb kutat\u00e1saira t\u00e1maszkodva viszont a T\u00fck\u00f6r \u00e1ltal hom\u00e1lyosan \u00e9rtelmez\u00e9s\u00e9t f\u00e9lrevitte a marketingfog\u00e1s miatt kital\u00e1lt pszeudo-tril\u00f3gia \u00e1lc\u00e1ja. E szerint, Bergman l\u00edrai m\u0171vei: a T\u00fck\u00f6r \u00e1ltal hom\u00e1lyosan, az \u00darvacsora \u00e9s a Csend, az Isten tematika miatt rendez\u0151dnek tril\u00f3gi\u00e1ba, amit a szerz\u0151 rendez\u0151 mag\u00e1n\u00e9let\u00e9nek ismerete is al\u00e1t\u00e1maszt, miszerint gy\u0171l\u00f6lt apja lelk\u00e9sz volt. A k\u00f6ztudottan neurotikus Bergman nyilatkozataiban tov\u00e1bb\u00e1 elmondja, hogy ter\u00e1piajelleg\u0171 rendez\u00e9seiben traumatiz\u00e1lt gyermekkor\u00e1t igyekezett gy\u00f3gy\u00edtani. M\u00e1ra t\u00f6bb\u00e9-kev\u00e9sb\u00e9, a kialakult diskurzusok mindk\u00e9t p\u00f3lus\u00e1n tal\u00e1lhatunk igazs\u00e1gokat, de KAB 2018-as fel\u00fcl\u00e9rtelmez\u00e9se re\u00e1lisabbnak t\u0171nhet. \u201e\u2026sohasem k\u00f6t\u0151dtem semmilyen ideol\u00f3gi\u00e1hoz. K\u00e9ptelen vagyok erre. Sz\u00e1momra semmi ilyesmi nem l\u00e9tezik. \u2026 A dolgokat illet\u0151 alapvet\u0151 n\u00e9zetem az, hogy semmilyen alapvet\u0151 n\u00e9zetem nincs a dolgokr\u00f3l. A rendk\u00edv\u00fcli dogmatizmusb\u00f3l indultam, \u00e9s az \u00e9letet illet\u0151 n\u00e9zeteim fokozatosan szertefoszlottak.\u201d (Bergman on Bergman, 17. o.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-opt-id=186128725  loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"259\" height=\"194\" src=\"https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:auto\/h:auto\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/images-3.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1717\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:259\/h:194\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/images-3.jpg 259w, https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:259\/h:194\/q:mauto\/f:best\/dpr:2\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/images-3.jpg 2x\" sizes=\"(max-width: 259px) 100vw, 259px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u201eBergman egy\u00e1ltal\u00e1n nem hitt Istenben, \u00e9s Isten f\u00e9lelmetes \u00e9s undor\u00edt\u00f3 hatalom alakj\u00e1ban jelent meg sz\u00e1m\u00e1ra, ahogy ezt Karin, a T\u00fck\u00f6r \u00e1ltal hom\u00e1lyosan h\u0151sn\u0151je eset\u00e9ben l\u00e1tjuk. Az Isten k\u00e9rd\u00e9s\u00e9vel foglalkoz\u00f3 filmek egyetlen kiv\u00e9tellel \u2013 Sz\u0171zforr\u00e1s (1959) \u2013 val\u00f3j\u00e1ban a hal\u00e1lf\u00e9lelemr\u0151l \u00e9s a szeretethi\u00e1nyr\u00f3l sz\u00f3lnak. Azt\u00e1n azon a k\u00e9rd\u00e9sen, hogy vajon Isten a szeretet vagy a szeretet az isten (T\u00fck\u00f6r \u00e1ltal hom\u00e1lyosan), gyorsan t\u00fal is l\u00e9pett, mivel \u0151t els\u0151sorban a szeretet k\u00e9rd\u00e9se \u00e9rdekelte, nem Isten\u00e9.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-opt-id=951342160  loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"259\" height=\"194\" src=\"https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:auto\/h:auto\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/images-4.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1718\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:259\/h:194\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/images-4.jpg 259w, https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:259\/h:194\/q:mauto\/f:best\/dpr:2\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/images-4.jpg 2x\" sizes=\"(max-width: 259px) 100vw, 259px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u201eBergmann\u00e1l az arck\u00f6zeli nem egyszer\u0171en a kifejez\u00e9s fokoz\u00e1s\u00e1t szolg\u00e1lja \u2026, hanem n\u00e1la mag\u00e1n az arcon j\u00e1tsz\u00f3dik le a dr\u00e1ma. N\u00e1la az arc \u00bbsz\u00ednpad\u00ab, ahol az esem\u00e9nyek lezajlanak, \u2026 maga a bels\u0151 lelki folyamat j\u00e1tsz\u00f3dik le az arcon,\u201d ez adja Bergman erej\u00e9t \u00e9s mivel technikai \u00faj\u00edt\u00e1sai nincsenek, ez\u00e9rt is ut\u00e1nozhatatlan. Tehets\u00e9g\u00e9hez hozz\u00e1tartozik a sz\u00ednh\u00e1zi tev\u00e9kenys\u00e9g\u00e9hez is k\u00f6thet\u0151, sz\u00edn\u00e9szeivel val\u00f3 gazdag \u00e9s szuggeszt\u00edv kapcsolata, \u201e\u2026 ez nem eszt\u00e9tikai titok, hanem pszichol\u00f3giai. \u2026 Bergman volt a nagy szerz\u0151k k\u00f6z\u00f6tt a legszem\u00e9lyesebb, a legkomolyabb \u00e9s a legkev\u00e9sb\u00e9 p\u00f3zol\u00f3. \u00d6nmaga \u00e9s m\u00e1sok ir\u00e1nti lelki k\u00edm\u00e9letlens\u00e9ge nem ismert hat\u00e1rokat sem a m\u0171v\u00e9szet\u00e9ben, sem az \u00e9let\u00e9ben. \u2026 Ahhoz, hogy valaki Bergmant k\u00f6vesse, az \u00f6nk\u00edm\u00e9let \u00e9s \u00f6nsajn\u00e1lat utols\u00f3 szikr\u00e1j\u00e1t kell kiirtania mag\u00e1b\u00f3l, \u00e9s ez nem stilisztikai k\u00e9rd\u00e9s.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-opt-id=1369035545  loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"299\" height=\"168\" src=\"https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:auto\/h:auto\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/download.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1719\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:299\/h:168\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/download.jpg 299w, https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:299\/h:168\/q:mauto\/f:best\/dpr:2\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/download.jpg 2x\" sizes=\"(max-width: 299px) 100vw, 299px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Szabadka\/2021.11.24. Ingmar Bergman: T\u00fck\u00f6r \u00e1ltal hom\u00e1lyosan (S\u00e5som i en spegel) sv\u00e9d filmdr\u00e1ma, 1961., 87 perc \u201eBergmant t\u00fck\u00f6r \u00e1ltal hom\u00e1lyosan l\u00e1tjuk; azt hissz\u00fck, korszakos filoz\u00f3fusa a filmm\u0171v\u00e9szetnek, pedig a te\u00f3ria sohasem \u00e9rdekelte, a szeretet hi\u00e1ny\u00e1r\u00f3l&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":1722,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"rop_custom_images_group":[],"rop_custom_messages_group":[],"rop_publish_now":"initial","rop_publish_now_accounts":[],"rop_publish_now_history":[],"rop_publish_now_status":"pending","_themeisle_gutenberg_block_has_review":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,8,9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1714","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-filmvetites","category-kurbli","category-kurbli-filmklub"],"featured_image_src":"https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:auto\/h:auto\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/259875756_10228237491543862_8046814324187884127_n.jpg","featured_image_src_square":"https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:auto\/h:auto\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/259875756_10228237491543862_8046814324187884127_n.jpg","author_info":{"display_name":"Kari","author_link":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/rs\/author\/karina\/"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/rs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1714","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/rs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/rs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/rs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/rs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1714"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/rs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1714\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1723,"href":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/rs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1714\/revisions\/1723"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/rs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1722"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/rs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1714"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/rs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1714"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/rs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1714"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}