{"id":4967,"date":"2026-02-04T12:09:05","date_gmt":"2026-02-04T11:09:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/?p=4967"},"modified":"2026-02-24T12:29:43","modified_gmt":"2026-02-24T11:29:43","slug":"kurbli-filmklub-21","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/en\/2026\/02\/04\/kurbli-filmklub-21\/","title":{"rendered":"Kurbli Filmklub: Alex van Warmerdam-Borgman"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>2026.02.04.\/Szabadka<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Alex van Warmerdam: Borgman, 2013, holland thriller, 113 perc<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">A civiliz\u00e1ci\u00f3 fejl\u0151d\u00e9s\u00e9vel a meg\u00e9rt\u00e9s egyre kev\u00e9sb\u00e9 k\u00f6zvetlen tapasztalaton alapul, ink\u00e1bb elidegen\u00edt\u0151 magyar\u00e1zatokon kereszt\u00fcl t\u00f6rt\u00e9nik. A m\u00e1ss\u00e1g \u00e9rz\u00e9ki jelenl\u00e9t\u00e9t absztrakt rendszerek v\u00e1ltj\u00e1k fel, amelyek elt\u00e1vol\u00edtanak egym\u00e1st\u00f3l.\u00a0<strong>Alex van Warmerdam\u00a0<em>Borgman<\/em><\/strong><em>\u00a0<\/em>c\u00edm\u0171 filmje \u2013 a Palicsi Filmfesztiv\u00e1l f\u0151d\u00edjasa \u2013 ezt a t\u00f6r\u00e9st teszi l\u00e1that\u00f3v\u00e1, mik\u00f6zben t\u00f6bbsz\u00f6r\u00f6sen is f\u00e9lrevezeti a n\u00e9z\u0151t.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A film k\u00e9pi vil\u00e1ga m\u00e1r az \u00e9rz\u00e9kel\u00e9s szintj\u00e9n nyugtalan\u00edt: a steril kertv\u00e1rosi terek, a statikus, kim\u00e9rt be\u00e1ll\u00edt\u00e1sok \u00e9s a term\u00e9szet mesters\u00e9gesen kord\u00e1ban tartott l\u00e1tv\u00e1nya fenyeget\u0151 \u00fcress\u00e9get sug\u00e1roz, mik\u00f6zben&nbsp;<strong><em>Borgman<\/em><\/strong>&nbsp;\u00e9rkez\u00e9se a term\u00e9szetb\u0151l \u00e9s a szem\u00e9lye k\u00f6r\u00fcl kialakul\u00f3 misztikum, \u00fagyszint\u00e9n zavarba ejt\u0151.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A film azt mutatja meg, mik\u00e9nt omlik \u00f6ssze a kiz\u00e1r\u00e1sra \u00e9p\u00fcl\u0151 polg\u00e1ri vil\u00e1gk\u00e9p. A gazdag\u2013szeg\u00e9ny ellent\u00e9t itt nem t\u00e1rsadalmi probl\u00e9ma, hanem ontol\u00f3giai vakfolt: irracion\u00e1lis f\u00e9lelmek forr\u00e1sa, amelyek megb\u00e9n\u00edtj\u00e1k a meg\u00e9rt\u00e9st \u2013 nem szociol\u00f3giai \u00e1ll\u00edt\u00e1sk\u00e9nt, hanem l\u00e9telm\u00e9leti provok\u00e1ci\u00f3k\u00e9nt m\u0171k\u00f6dik.&nbsp;<strong><em>Borgman<\/em><\/strong>&nbsp;alakja \u2013 Julia Kristeva \u00e9rtelm\u00e9ben \u2013 abjekt figura: kirekesztett, m\u00e9gis bet\u00f6r a rendbe. Jelenl\u00e9te nem k\u00fcls\u0151 vesz\u00e9lyt jelent, hanem a polg\u00e1ri identit\u00e1s bels\u0151 instabilit\u00e1s\u00e1t leplezi le. Godard polg\u00e1ri k\u00e9pkritik\u00e1j\u00e1hoz kapcsol\u00f3dva Warmerdam nem magyar\u00e1z \u00e9s nem old fel, hanem k\u00e9rd\u00e9seket gener\u00e1l \u00e9s sz\u00e9tfesz\u00edti a polg\u00e1ri vil\u00e1g rendj\u00e9t fenntart\u00f3 konszenzust. A narrat\u00edv \u201e\u00e9rthetetlens\u00e9g\u201d tudatos eszt\u00e9tikai d\u00f6nt\u00e9s: a film nem megnyugtatni akar, hanem gondolkod\u00e1sra k\u00e9sztet. A t\u00e1rsadalmi szakad\u00e9k itt nem csak jelk\u00e9p, hanem \u00e9rz\u00e9ki tapasztalat, amely kozmikus szorong\u00e1sk\u00e9nt jelenik meg a filmben \u00e9s visszavezet az ember transzcendens tapasztal\u00e1s\u00e1hoz. David Lynch szavai pontos diagn\u00f3zisk\u00e9nt hatnak:&nbsp;<em>Az \u0151r\u00fcletnek egy napon v\u00e9ge lesz, de \u00fagy hiszem, nem ez az a nap.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-2 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-opt-id=1635144669  fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"546\" height=\"320\" data-id=\"4968\" src=\"https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:auto\/h:auto\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/627359166_10242393432993551_7466589730369754985_n.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4968\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:546\/h:320\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/627359166_10242393432993551_7466589730369754985_n.jpg 546w, https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:300\/h:176\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/627359166_10242393432993551_7466589730369754985_n.jpg 300w, https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:546\/h:320\/q:mauto\/f:best\/dpr:2\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/627359166_10242393432993551_7466589730369754985_n.jpg 2x\" sizes=\"(max-width: 546px) 100vw, 546px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-opt-id=354313542  fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"423\" data-id=\"4970\" src=\"https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:1024\/h:423\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/627397521_10242393434513589_7086993724975176946_n.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4970\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:1024\/h:423\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/627397521_10242393434513589_7086993724975176946_n.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:300\/h:124\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/627397521_10242393434513589_7086993724975176946_n.jpg 300w, https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:768\/h:317\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/627397521_10242393434513589_7086993724975176946_n.jpg 768w, https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:1279\/h:528\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/627397521_10242393434513589_7086993724975176946_n.jpg 1279w, https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:1279\/h:528\/q:mauto\/f:best\/dpr:2\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/627397521_10242393434513589_7086993724975176946_n.jpg 2x\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-opt-id=1486660741  decoding=\"async\" width=\"700\" height=\"289\" data-id=\"4969\" src=\"https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:auto\/h:auto\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/627457307_10242393434313584_6049597316190943652_n.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4969\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:700\/h:289\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/627457307_10242393434313584_6049597316190943652_n.jpg 700w, https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:300\/h:124\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/627457307_10242393434313584_6049597316190943652_n.jpg 300w, https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:700\/h:289\/q:mauto\/f:best\/dpr:2\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/627457307_10242393434313584_6049597316190943652_n.jpg 2x\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Pong Dzsunho \u00c9l\u0151sk\u00f6d\u0151k c\u00edm\u0171 filmj\u00e9vel szemben Warmerdam sokkal filozofikusabb \u00e9s \u00e9rz\u00e9kibb tapasztalatra \u00e9p\u00edt, mell\u0151zve a hollywoodias narrat\u00edv \u00e9s \u00e9rzelmi leegyszer\u0171s\u00edt\u00e9seket. Tarkovszkij hite, miszerint az ember elszak\u00edthatatlan a transzcendens term\u00e9szett\u0151l, Warmerdam vil\u00e1g\u00e1ban a t\u00e1rsadalmi t\u00f6r\u00e9svonalak \u00e1ltal kiv\u00e1ltott ontol\u00f3giai idegens\u00e9g form\u00e1j\u00e1t \u00f6lti.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img data-opt-id=595506319  loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"434\" src=\"https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:1024\/h:434\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/BORGMAN-superJumbo.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4972\" style=\"aspect-ratio:2.3594947641152975;width:570px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:1024\/h:434\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/BORGMAN-superJumbo.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:300\/h:127\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/BORGMAN-superJumbo.jpg 300w, https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:768\/h:325\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/BORGMAN-superJumbo.jpg 768w, https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:1536\/h:650\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/BORGMAN-superJumbo.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:1920\/h:812\/q:mauto\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/BORGMAN-superJumbo.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:1920\/h:812\/q:mauto\/f:best\/dpr:2\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/BORGMAN-superJumbo.jpg 2x\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>&#8220;Egyik kedvenc filmem.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sajn\u00e1lom azokat, akik sz\u00e1jbar\u00e1g\u00f3s, hollywoodi klis\u00e9 filmet v\u00e1rtak, \u00e9s hogy a v\u00e9g\u00e9n mindent elmagyar\u00e1zzanak nekik. Ez nem az a film. Pont ez\u00e9rt j\u00f3. Meg az\u00e9rt, mert nagyon sok m\u00f6g\u00f6ttes mondanival\u00f3 van, amit boncolgat. Ez nem \u201eegyszern\u00e9z\u0151s\u201d film. Nekem is csak m\u00e1sodikra j\u00f6tt \u00e1t a l\u00e9nyege, \u00e9s az\u00f3ta is tal\u00e1lok benne \u00faj gondolatokat. B\u00e1rcsak t\u00f6bb ilyen filmet k\u00e9sz\u00edten\u00e9nek.&#8221; \u2013 drtbrown kommentje \u00c1gasegyh\u00e1z\u00e1r\u00f3l, 2017-07-27.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\">Sz\u00e1sz Csongor<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>2026.02.04.\/Szabadka Alex van Warmerdam: Borgman, 2013, holland thriller, 113 perc A civiliz\u00e1ci\u00f3 fejl\u0151d\u00e9s\u00e9vel a meg\u00e9rt\u00e9s egyre kev\u00e9sb\u00e9 k\u00f6zvetlen tapasztalaton alapul, ink\u00e1bb elidegen\u00edt\u0151 magyar\u00e1zatokon kereszt\u00fcl t\u00f6rt\u00e9nik. A m\u00e1ss\u00e1g \u00e9rz\u00e9ki jelenl\u00e9t\u00e9t absztrakt rendszerek v\u00e1ltj\u00e1k fel, amelyek&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":4971,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"rop_custom_images_group":[],"rop_custom_messages_group":[],"rop_publish_now":"yes","rop_publish_now_accounts":[],"rop_publish_now_history":[],"rop_publish_now_status":"pending","_themeisle_gutenberg_block_has_review":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[8,9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4967","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-kurbli","category-kurbli-filmklub"],"featured_image_src":"https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:600\/h:400\/q:mauto\/rt:fill\/g:ce\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/627681885_10242393433233557_7239417837970001082_n.jpg","featured_image_src_square":"https:\/\/mladjxeqsxgv.i.optimole.com\/cb:B3zE.b136\/w:600\/h:600\/q:mauto\/rt:fill\/g:ce\/f:best\/https:\/\/ctalker.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/627681885_10242393433233557_7239417837970001082_n.jpg","author_info":{"display_name":"Kari","author_link":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/en\/author\/karina\/"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4967","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4967"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4967\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4973,"href":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4967\/revisions\/4973"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/4971"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4967"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4967"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ctalker.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4967"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}